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''Hoewel er voor veel mensen goede redenen zijn om vrolijk te worden van Limesco's benadering van de mobiele markt, spreekt het concept nog vooral technisch georienteerde gebruikers aanDie mogen immers naar hartelust experimenteren met het netwerk -- mits binnen de grenzen van de wetWat we nog niet hebben, is een platform waarin die technische gebruikers kennis uitwisselen, en een samenwerkende gemeenschap vormenDat is het gat waar Limesco Academy in springt.''
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''Limesco is a Dutch virtual mobile operator with a strong emphasis on freeing the mobile market, and bringing it more in line with the notions of freedom and openness as they are cherished in the Internet communityAlthough this is a good reason the cheer up most current mobile users, the small scale at which Limesco still operates means that most of its users are technically inclined, hacker-style users.  They are permitted to experiment on the network within the bounds of law and reasonOne thing that is still missing, is a platform where these technically oriented users can exchange their knowledge and ideas, a community of cooperative developmentThis is why we started Limesco Academy.''
  
Limesco Academy is momenteel een '''concept plan''' dat positief ontvangen is onder aandeelhouders; zie dit vooral als een aanzet tot discussie over Limesco Academy #0; er is nog niets definitief vastgelegd.
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Limesco Academy is currently a '''plan''' that was greeted with enthousiasm by Limesco share holders and members; we are currently looking for speakers, discussion topics and demonstrations/experiments.
  
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= What is it? =
  
= Wat is het? =
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The idea behind Limesco Academy is to bring members together to learn about GSM protocols, and exchange experiences about playing with them.  We will come together for a day, in a sort of informal conference.  The current day plan is:
  
Het idee van Limesco Academy is dat leden van elkaar leren over de GSM-protocollen, en ervaringen met het spelen ermee uitwisselen.  We komen daarvoor een dag bijeen, in een soort informele conferentie.  De voorlopige dagindeling is:
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* ''What do we know?'' Lectures in which we share knowledge about the GSM protocol stack (in the morning)
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* ''What do we want?'' Discussions about questions cutting through the protocol layers (around lunch time)
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* ''What can we do?'' Practical experiments and demonstrations (end of the afternoon)
  
* Ochtend: ''Wat weten we?'' Lezingen over delen van de GSM-stack
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Since the day is held in Enschede, we expect to welcome German visitors, so the day's default language will be English.
* Lunchperiode: ''Wat willen we?'' Discussies over vragen die de GSM-stack doorsnijden
 
* Middag: ''Wat kunnen we?'' Praktische experimenten en demonstraties
 
  
== Limesco Academy #0: Inzicht in de protocolstack ==
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== Limesco Academy #0: Understanding the GSM protocol stack ==
  
Het voorlopige ochtendprogramma bestaat uit de volgende onderwerpen; '''we zoeken sprekers''' die deze onderwerpen willen bestuderen en uitleggen:
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The proposed topics for the morning lectures follow; we are '''looking for speakers''' willing to study these topics and explain them to others:
  
* Management van voice: component MSC; protocollen GSM en, bij Limesco, SIP; AT commando's
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* Management of voice: component MSC; protocols GSM and, with Limesco, SIP; AT commands
* Management van data: componenten SGSN, GGSN; protocollen GPRS en UMTS; AT commando's
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* Management of data: components SGSN, GGSN; protocols GPRS and UMTS; AT commands
* Management van messaging: componenten SMSC, MMSC; protocollen SMS PDU; AT commando's
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* Management of messaging: components SMSC, MMSC; protocols SMS PDU; AT commands
* Logical Link Control: De verbindingslaag boven de radiolaag, en onder SMS, GPRS, UMTS
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* Logical Link Control: MAC/RLC/LLC, from radio to  the support for SMS, GPRS, UMTS ''(Rick could do this, but he is also the organiser... who will then take over?)''
* Mobility management: Transparante hand-over;  
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* Mobility management: Components HLR, VLR; Transparant hand-over; International Internet Access?
* Datatransport: protocollen Robust Header Compression, IPv6, IPsec; relaties met PPP, SNDCP en PDCP; AT commando's
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* Data transport: protocols Robust Header Compression, IPv6, IPsec; relations with PPP, SNDCP and PDCP; AT commands
  
De volgorde van de lezingen zal zo veel mogelijk bottom-up zijnAls een onderwerp je voldoende boeit om uit te zoeken en aan ons allen uit te leggen, laat het dan even weten.  We verwachten niet dat je er alles van weet, maar vooral dat je ons op gang helpt met wat deze lagen doen, en misschien wel een paar spannende mogelijkheden die erin schuilen.
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The order of the lectures will be bottom-up as far as possibleIf a topic is sufficiently interesting to you to be willing to explain it to other Limesco members, then please let us know.  We are not assuming that you will know everything about it, but would like to get a headstart in understanding these layers and their interactions.  And if you happen to find an intruiging possibility that is not commonly practiced in mobile applications yet, you are welcome to share that too!
  
Je kunt ook meerdere onderwerpen prikken, zodat we je naar die lezing kunnen schuiven waar het krapste aanbod voor is.
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You are also welcome to pick multiple topics that you might address, so we have more freedom to decide what to ask you to explain to us.
  
== Wat is er in het verleden gebeurd? ==
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== What has happened in the past? ==
  
Limesco Academy #0 moet nog plaatsvindenNog even geduld hebben dus ;-)
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Limesco Academy #0 is yet to startA bit more patience please ;-)
  
= Voor wie is het? =
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= Who should attend? =
  
Limesco Academy is toegankelijk voor
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Limesco Academy is accessible to all; if too many people want to visit we will select.  Specifically invited are
  
* Leden van Limesco
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* Limesco members and people with an interest in freedom of mobile telecommunication
* Leden van de locatie waar we te gast zijn
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* Tkkrlab members and other hacker spaces (including German ones, since we are so near the borders)
* Overige sprekers
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* Other speakers
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* Other interested parties
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* There is a dedicated press conference caring to (less technical) journalists
  
Het is nog niet duidelijk of we toegang moeten heffen; dat hangt ook af van de gastlocatie.
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Explicitly banned are activities of improper conduct, invasions on network security/privacy and the stability of the GSM infrastructure.
  
Expliciet niet welkom zijn activiteiten die indruisen tegen de goede zeden, de computerveiligheid en de stabiliteit van GSM-infrastructuur.
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== Are there things I could do? ==
  
Vanwege de hoge mate van technische inhoud zijn de bijeenkomsten minder geschikt voor journalisten.  Dat houdt niet in dat er geen interviews kunnen worden afgenomen na afloop, waarin een vereenvoudigde weergave kan worden gegeven.
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An event like this is modestly sized, but a bit of help is quite welcome.
  
== Kan ik iets bijdragen? ==
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* We are guests at [http://www.tkkrlab.nl Tkkrlab]; please leave the place in a better state than you found it!
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* Share your knowledge, even if you still have to study it; specifically, please consider filling in a lecturing slot
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* Send us your questions, specifically for the luncheon time discussions
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* Prepare an experiment or demonstration
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* Maybe we should revived the (typewrite-made) magazine [http://www.hacktic.nl/index.html Hack-Tic]?
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* Maybe you would like to organise the next Limesco Academy in your home town, half a year from now?
  
Een evenement als dit is kleinschalig en bescheiden, maar kan altijd hulp gebruiken.
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= When and where is it? =
  
* We vragen de gastlocatie om de catering te verzorgen, zodat ze iets aan ons bezoek verdienenToon alstjeblieft je waardering hiervoor door er gebruik van te maken.
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'''Sorry to say, Limesco Academy #0 has been cancelledWe challenged ourselves too hard, and turned out to be too small to fill the program. The organisation of a new attempt may work when we have grown a bit; anyone who cares to pick it up is welcome to do so.'''
* Deel je kennis, zelfs al moet je die nog opdoen; bijvoorbeeld door een lezing aan te bieden.
 
* Dien vooraf je vragen in, zodat we die kunnen inpassen in de lunchsessie.
 
* Bereid een experiment of demonstratie voor.
 
* Misschien kunnen we het (getypte) blad [http://www.hacktic.nl/index.html Hack-Tic] uit de mottonballen halen?
 
* Misschien wil jij over een half jaar een Limesco Academy verzorgen in jouw thuisbasis?
 
  
= Waar is het? =
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Limesco Academy #0 WAS scheduled on Saturday, June 14th, 2014.  The day's schedule WOULD HAVE BEEN roughly like this:
  
De leukste locaties zijn de hackerspaces op diverse plekken in het land. Daar is ook een goede deal mee te sluiten; kennisuitwisseling streept redelijk weg tegen onderdak.
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* 10.00 - 12.30 -- Lectures / Introductions
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* 13.30 - 15.30 -- Discussions / Research questions
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* 15.30 - 16.00 -- About Limesco / GSM Basics
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* 16.00 - 17.00 -- Press conference / Announcements
  
Het ligt redelijk voor de hand dat de organisator van Limesco Academy die in zijn eigen stad organiseertVoor Limesco Academy #0 mikken we daarom op Enschede, de thuisbasis van Rick, die Limesco Academy #0 organiseert.
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Limesco Playground #0 WOULD BE run in another room on the same siteIts schedule WAS very simple:
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* 14.00 - 17.00 -- Demonstrations / Experiments
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In parallel, there WAS the informal stuff that we could call Limesco Social #0 looking like this:
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* 09.30 - 10.00 -- Arrival of guests
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* 12.30 - 13.30 -- Lunch / PGP key party
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* 17.00 - 17.30 -- Tidying-up together, leave the place spit-spot
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* 17.30 - 18.30 -- Diner; reconvene as a group to De Kater, which offers [http://www.dekater.com/eten-drinken/diner/ proper food at affordable prices] including a horribly carnivorous daily menu.
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* 18.30 - 24.00 -- Trains, beer, dance, talk, Parkour, whatever...
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We WERE graceously welcome at [http://www.tkkrlab.nl Tkkrlab] in [http://m.ns.nl/planner.action?from=&to=Enschede&via=&date=14-06&time=09%3A45&departure=false&planroute=Journey+advice Enschede].  They are situated in the former Polaroid film development laboratory, a large industrial space with lots of spaces which seem to be capable of storing an awful lot of soldering stations.
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The venue WAS located in an old factory building of Polaroid; free parking is available next to the buildings, so you don't need to fear that your circuit boards get soaked.  The full address and a map can be found on [http://tkkrlab.nl/wordpress/contact Tkkrlab's contact page].
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The location WAS a [https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Station+Enschede,+Stationsplein+33,+7511+JD+Enschede,+Netherlands/TkkrLab/@52.2229983,6.8948332,15z/am=t/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x47b814751ab9e341:0xc757acecfa1fdab0!2m2!1d6.890235!2d52.222482!1m5!1m1!1s0x0:0x19afd02a9c840a4!2m2!1d6.902037!2d52.222975!3e2?hl=en 13 minute walk] from [http://m.ns.nl/planner.action?from=&to=Enschede&via=&date=14-06&time=09%3A45&departure=false&planroute=Journey+advice railway station Enschede].
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When you signED up, you COULD also opt for a lunch for less than EUR 5; but you are of course welcome to bring your own lunch sandwiches, or if you find the time, to visit one of the nearby stores: [http://www.ekoplaza.nl/vestigingen/enschede/ EkoPlaza], [http://www.jumbosupermarkten.nl/Alle-Jumbo-Winkels/Winkels/?storeid=2923 Jumbo], [http://www.bakkerbart.nl/winkels/enschede/kalanderstraat-6 Bakker Bart] or the [https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hendrik+Jan+van+Heekplein+50/@52.2182989,6.8972008,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47b814718177f5b9:0xa54e266567246244 market place].  These pretty much lie on one street in the shopping centre, nearest one first.

Huidige versie van 25 apr 2014 om 13:17

Limesco is a Dutch virtual mobile operator with a strong emphasis on freeing the mobile market, and bringing it more in line with the notions of freedom and openness as they are cherished in the Internet community. Although this is a good reason the cheer up most current mobile users, the small scale at which Limesco still operates means that most of its users are technically inclined, hacker-style users. They are permitted to experiment on the network within the bounds of law and reason. One thing that is still missing, is a platform where these technically oriented users can exchange their knowledge and ideas, a community of cooperative development. This is why we started Limesco Academy.

Limesco Academy is currently a plan that was greeted with enthousiasm by Limesco share holders and members; we are currently looking for speakers, discussion topics and demonstrations/experiments.

What is it?

The idea behind Limesco Academy is to bring members together to learn about GSM protocols, and exchange experiences about playing with them. We will come together for a day, in a sort of informal conference. The current day plan is:

  • What do we know? Lectures in which we share knowledge about the GSM protocol stack (in the morning)
  • What do we want? Discussions about questions cutting through the protocol layers (around lunch time)
  • What can we do? Practical experiments and demonstrations (end of the afternoon)

Since the day is held in Enschede, we expect to welcome German visitors, so the day's default language will be English.

Limesco Academy #0: Understanding the GSM protocol stack

The proposed topics for the morning lectures follow; we are looking for speakers willing to study these topics and explain them to others:

  • Management of voice: component MSC; protocols GSM and, with Limesco, SIP; AT commands
  • Management of data: components SGSN, GGSN; protocols GPRS and UMTS; AT commands
  • Management of messaging: components SMSC, MMSC; protocols SMS PDU; AT commands
  • Logical Link Control: MAC/RLC/LLC, from radio to the support for SMS, GPRS, UMTS (Rick could do this, but he is also the organiser... who will then take over?)
  • Mobility management: Components HLR, VLR; Transparant hand-over; International Internet Access?
  • Data transport: protocols Robust Header Compression, IPv6, IPsec; relations with PPP, SNDCP and PDCP; AT commands

The order of the lectures will be bottom-up as far as possible. If a topic is sufficiently interesting to you to be willing to explain it to other Limesco members, then please let us know. We are not assuming that you will know everything about it, but would like to get a headstart in understanding these layers and their interactions. And if you happen to find an intruiging possibility that is not commonly practiced in mobile applications yet, you are welcome to share that too!

You are also welcome to pick multiple topics that you might address, so we have more freedom to decide what to ask you to explain to us.

What has happened in the past?

Limesco Academy #0 is yet to start. A bit more patience please ;-)

Who should attend?

Limesco Academy is accessible to all; if too many people want to visit we will select. Specifically invited are

  • Limesco members and people with an interest in freedom of mobile telecommunication
  • Tkkrlab members and other hacker spaces (including German ones, since we are so near the borders)
  • Other speakers
  • Other interested parties
  • There is a dedicated press conference caring to (less technical) journalists

Explicitly banned are activities of improper conduct, invasions on network security/privacy and the stability of the GSM infrastructure.

Are there things I could do?

An event like this is modestly sized, but a bit of help is quite welcome.

  • We are guests at Tkkrlab; please leave the place in a better state than you found it!
  • Share your knowledge, even if you still have to study it; specifically, please consider filling in a lecturing slot
  • Send us your questions, specifically for the luncheon time discussions
  • Prepare an experiment or demonstration
  • Maybe we should revived the (typewrite-made) magazine Hack-Tic?
  • Maybe you would like to organise the next Limesco Academy in your home town, half a year from now?

When and where is it?

Sorry to say, Limesco Academy #0 has been cancelled. We challenged ourselves too hard, and turned out to be too small to fill the program. The organisation of a new attempt may work when we have grown a bit; anyone who cares to pick it up is welcome to do so.

Limesco Academy #0 WAS scheduled on Saturday, June 14th, 2014. The day's schedule WOULD HAVE BEEN roughly like this:

  • 10.00 - 12.30 -- Lectures / Introductions
  • 13.30 - 15.30 -- Discussions / Research questions
  • 15.30 - 16.00 -- About Limesco / GSM Basics
  • 16.00 - 17.00 -- Press conference / Announcements

Limesco Playground #0 WOULD BE run in another room on the same site. Its schedule WAS very simple:

  • 14.00 - 17.00 -- Demonstrations / Experiments

In parallel, there WAS the informal stuff that we could call Limesco Social #0 looking like this:

  • 09.30 - 10.00 -- Arrival of guests
  • 12.30 - 13.30 -- Lunch / PGP key party
  • 17.00 - 17.30 -- Tidying-up together, leave the place spit-spot
  • 17.30 - 18.30 -- Diner; reconvene as a group to De Kater, which offers proper food at affordable prices including a horribly carnivorous daily menu.
  • 18.30 - 24.00 -- Trains, beer, dance, talk, Parkour, whatever...

We WERE graceously welcome at Tkkrlab in Enschede. They are situated in the former Polaroid film development laboratory, a large industrial space with lots of spaces which seem to be capable of storing an awful lot of soldering stations.

The venue WAS located in an old factory building of Polaroid; free parking is available next to the buildings, so you don't need to fear that your circuit boards get soaked. The full address and a map can be found on Tkkrlab's contact page.

The location WAS a 13 minute walk from railway station Enschede.

When you signED up, you COULD also opt for a lunch for less than EUR 5; but you are of course welcome to bring your own lunch sandwiches, or if you find the time, to visit one of the nearby stores: EkoPlaza, Jumbo, Bakker Bart or the market place. These pretty much lie on one street in the shopping centre, nearest one first.