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''Hoewel er voor veel mensen goede redenen zijn om vrolijk te worden van Limesco's benadering van de mobiele markt, spreekt het concept nog vooral technisch georienteerde gebruikers aanDie mogen immers naar hartelust experimenteren met het netwerk -- binnen de grenzen van wet en redeWat we nog niet hebben, is een platform waarin die technische gebruikers kennis uitwisselen, en een samenwerkende gemeenschap vormenDat is het gat waar Limesco Academy in springt.''
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''Limesco is a Dutch virtual mobile operator with a strong emphasis on freeing the mobile market, and bringing it more in line with the notions of freedom and openness as they are cherished in the Internet communityAlthough this is a good reason the cheer up most current mobile users, the small scale at which Limesco still operates means that most of its users are technically inclined, hacker-style users.  They are permitted to experiment on the network within the bounds of law and reasonOne thing that is still missing, is a platform where these technically oriented users can exchange their knowledge and ideas, a community of cooperative developmentThis is why we started Limesco Academy.''
  
Limesco Academy is momenteel een '''concept plan''' dat positief ontvangen is onder aandeelhouders; zie dit vooral als een aanzet tot discussie over Limesco Academy #0; er is nog niets definitief vastgelegd.
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Limesco Academy is currently a '''concept plan''' that was greeted with enthousiasm by Limesco share holders; so the following is primarily intended to start discussion of Limesco Academy #0; nothing has yet been formally established.vastgelegd.
  
= Wat is het? =
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= What is it? =
  
Het idee van Limesco Academy is dat leden van elkaar leren over de GSM-protocollen, en ervaringen met het spelen ermee uitwisselen.  We komen daarvoor een dag bijeen, in een soort informele conferentieDe voorlopige dagindeling is:
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The idea behind Limesco Academy is to bring members together to learn about GSM protocols, and exchange experiences about playing with them.  We will come together for a day, in a sort of informal conferenceThe current day plan is:
  
* ''Wat weten we?'' Lezingen over delen van de GSM-stack (ochtendprogramma)
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* ''What do we know?'' Lectures in which we share knowledge about the GSM protocol stack (in the morning)
* ''Wat willen we?'' Discussies over vragen die de GSM-stack doorsnijden (rond lunchtijd)
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* ''What do we want?'' Discussions about questions cutting through the protocol layers (around lunch time)
* ''Wat kunnen we?'' Praktische experimenten en demonstraties (middagprogramma)
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* ''What can we do?'' Practical experiments and demonstrations (end of the afternoon)
  
== Limesco Academy #0: Inzicht in de protocolstack ==
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Since the day is held in Enschede, we expect to welcome German visitors, so the day's default language will be English.
  
Het voorlopige ochtendprogramma bestaat uit de volgende onderwerpen; '''we zoeken sprekers''' die deze onderwerpen willen bestuderen en uitleggen:
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== Limesco Academy #0: Understanding the GSM protocol stack ==
  
* Management van voice: component MSC; protocollen GSM en, bij Limesco, SIP; AT commando's
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The proposed topics for the morning lectures follow; we are '''looking for speakers'' willing to study these topics and explain them to others:
* Management van data: componenten SGSN, GGSN; protocollen GPRS en UMTS; AT commando's
 
* Management van messaging: componenten SMSC, MMSC; protocollen SMS PDU; AT commando's
 
* Logical Link Control: De verbindingslaag boven de radiolaag, en onder SMS, GPRS, UMTS
 
* Mobility management: Transparante hand-over;
 
* Datatransport: protocollen Robust Header Compression, IPv6, IPsec; relaties met PPP, SNDCP en PDCP; AT commando's
 
  
De volgorde van de lezingen zal zo veel mogelijk bottom-up zijn.  Als een onderwerp je voldoende boeit om uit te zoeken en aan ons allen uit te leggen, laat het dan even weten.  We verwachten niet dat je er alles van weet, maar vooral dat je ons op gang helpt met wat deze lagen doen, en misschien wel een paar spannende mogelijkheden die erin schuilen.
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* Management of voice: component MSC; protocols GSM and, with Limesco, SIP; AT commands
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* Management of data: components SGSN, GGSN; protocols GPRS and UMTS; AT commands
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* Management of messaging: components SMSC, MMSC; protocols SMS PDU; AT commands
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* Logical Link Control: The connection layer above the radio layer, and the foundation for SMS, GPRS, UMTS
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* Mobility management: Transparant hand-over;
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* Data transport: protocols Robust Header Compression, IPv6, IPsec; relations with PPP, SNDCP and PDCP; AT commands
  
Je kunt ook meerdere onderwerpen prikken, zodat we je naar die lezing kunnen schuiven waar het krapste aanbod voor is.
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The order of the lectures will be bottom-up as far as possible.  If a topic is sufficiently interesting to you to be willing to explain it to other Limesco members, then please let us know.  We are not assuming that you will know everything about it, but would like to get a headstart in understanding these layers and their interactions.  And if you happen to find an intruiging possibility that is not commonly practiced in mobile applications yet, you are welcome to share that too!
  
== Wat is er in het verleden gebeurd? ==
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You are also welcome to pick multiple topics that you might address, so we have more freedom to decide what to ask you to explain to us.
  
Limesco Academy #0 moet nog plaatsvinden.  Nog even geduld hebben dus ;-)
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== What has happened in the past? ==
  
= Voor wie is het? =
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Limesco Academy #0 is yet to start.  A bit more patience please ;-)
  
Limesco Academy is openbaar, maar richt zich in eerste instantie op:
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= Who should attend? =
  
* Leden van Limesco
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Limesco Academy is accessible to all; if too many people want to visit we will select. Specifically invited are
* Leden [http://www.tkkrlab.nl/ Tkkrlab], de hacker space waar we te gast zijn
 
* Overige sprekers
 
  
Expliciet niet welkom zijn activiteiten die indruisen tegen de goede zeden, de computerveiligheid en de stabiliteit van GSM-infrastructuur.
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* Limesco members and related interested parties
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* Tkkrlab members and other hacker spaces (including German ones, of course)
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* Other sprekers
  
Vanwege de hoge mate van technische inhoud zijn de bijeenkomsten minder geschikt voor journalisten.  Dat houdt niet in dat er geen interviews kunnen worden afgenomen na afloop, waarin een vereenvoudigde weergave kan worden gegeven.
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Explicitly banned are activities of improper conduct, invasions on network security/privacy and the stability of the GSM infrastructure.
  
== Kan ik iets bijdragen? ==
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Expect a strong emphasis on technical contents, making the conference less suited for journalists.  We will however be happy to work with interested parties to arrange an interview about the day's proceedings.
  
Een evenement als dit is kleinschalig en bescheiden, maar kan altijd hulp gebruiken.
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== Are there things I coul do? ==
  
* We zijn te gast bij de Enschedese hackerspace; streef ernaar deze plek in een betere staat achter te laten dan je hem aantreft.
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An event like this is modestly sized, but a bit of help is quite welcome.
* Deel je kennis, zelfs al moet je die nog opdoen; bijvoorbeeld door een lezing aan te bieden.
 
* Dien vooraf je vragen in, zodat we die kunnen inpassen in de lunchsessie.
 
* Bereid een experiment of demonstratie voor.
 
* Misschien kunnen we het (getypte) blad [http://www.hacktic.nl/index.html Hack-Tic] uit de mottonballen halen?
 
* Misschien wil jij over een half jaar een Limesco Academy verzorgen in jouw thuisbasis?
 
  
= Waar is het? =
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* We are guests at [http://www.tkkrlab.nl Tkkrlab]; please leave the place in a better state than you found it!
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* Share your knowledge, even if you still have to study it; specifically, please consider filling in a lecturing slot
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* Send us your questions, specifically for the luncheon time discussions
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* Prepare an experiment or demonstration
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* Maybe we should revived the (typewrite-made) magazine [http://www.hacktic.nl/index.html Hack-Tic]?
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* Maybe you would like to organise the next Limesco Academy in your home town, half a year from now?
  
We zijn te gast bij [http://www.tkkrlab.nl/ Tkkrlab], de Enschedese hacker space.  Ze bevinden zich in het fabriekspand waarin Polaroid filmrolletjes ontwikkelde.  Dit biedt grote ruimtes en ook een aantal kleinere waar toch verdacht veel soldeerbouten zich blijken te concentreren.
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= Where is it? =
  
De locatie ligt op gemoedelijke wandelafstand van NS-station Enschede, en heeft supermarkten in de onmiddellijke omgevingAfgezien van drankjes wordt niet voor catering gezorgd, dus smeer vooraf boterhammen of wip even uit een sessie om wat te kopen.
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We are graceously welcome at [http://www.tkkrlab.nl Tkkrlab] in Enschede.  They are situated in the former Polaroid film development laboratory, a large industrial space with lots of spaces which seem to be capable of storing an awful lot of soldering stations.
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The location is at strolling distance from railway station Enschede, and supermarkets are nearbyThere are no plans to support catering, other than drinks, so please take your own sandwiches or run out of the premises for some.

Versie van 1 apr 2014 om 22:59

Limesco is a Dutch virtual mobile operator with a strong emphasis on freeing the mobile market, and bringing it more in line with the notions of freedom and openness as they are cherished in the Internet community. Although this is a good reason the cheer up most current mobile users, the small scale at which Limesco still operates means that most of its users are technically inclined, hacker-style users. They are permitted to experiment on the network within the bounds of law and reason. One thing that is still missing, is a platform where these technically oriented users can exchange their knowledge and ideas, a community of cooperative development. This is why we started Limesco Academy.

Limesco Academy is currently a concept plan that was greeted with enthousiasm by Limesco share holders; so the following is primarily intended to start discussion of Limesco Academy #0; nothing has yet been formally established.vastgelegd.

What is it?

The idea behind Limesco Academy is to bring members together to learn about GSM protocols, and exchange experiences about playing with them. We will come together for a day, in a sort of informal conference. The current day plan is:

  • What do we know? Lectures in which we share knowledge about the GSM protocol stack (in the morning)
  • What do we want? Discussions about questions cutting through the protocol layers (around lunch time)
  • What can we do? Practical experiments and demonstrations (end of the afternoon)

Since the day is held in Enschede, we expect to welcome German visitors, so the day's default language will be English.

Limesco Academy #0: Understanding the GSM protocol stack

The proposed topics for the morning lectures follow; we are 'looking for speakers willing to study these topics and explain them to others:

  • Management of voice: component MSC; protocols GSM and, with Limesco, SIP; AT commands
  • Management of data: components SGSN, GGSN; protocols GPRS and UMTS; AT commands
  • Management of messaging: components SMSC, MMSC; protocols SMS PDU; AT commands
  • Logical Link Control: The connection layer above the radio layer, and the foundation for SMS, GPRS, UMTS
  • Mobility management: Transparant hand-over;
  • Data transport: protocols Robust Header Compression, IPv6, IPsec; relations with PPP, SNDCP and PDCP; AT commands

The order of the lectures will be bottom-up as far as possible. If a topic is sufficiently interesting to you to be willing to explain it to other Limesco members, then please let us know. We are not assuming that you will know everything about it, but would like to get a headstart in understanding these layers and their interactions. And if you happen to find an intruiging possibility that is not commonly practiced in mobile applications yet, you are welcome to share that too!

You are also welcome to pick multiple topics that you might address, so we have more freedom to decide what to ask you to explain to us.

What has happened in the past?

Limesco Academy #0 is yet to start. A bit more patience please ;-)

Who should attend?

Limesco Academy is accessible to all; if too many people want to visit we will select. Specifically invited are

  • Limesco members and related interested parties
  • Tkkrlab members and other hacker spaces (including German ones, of course)
  • Other sprekers

Explicitly banned are activities of improper conduct, invasions on network security/privacy and the stability of the GSM infrastructure.

Expect a strong emphasis on technical contents, making the conference less suited for journalists. We will however be happy to work with interested parties to arrange an interview about the day's proceedings.

Are there things I coul do?

An event like this is modestly sized, but a bit of help is quite welcome.

  • We are guests at Tkkrlab; please leave the place in a better state than you found it!
  • Share your knowledge, even if you still have to study it; specifically, please consider filling in a lecturing slot
  • Send us your questions, specifically for the luncheon time discussions
  • Prepare an experiment or demonstration
  • Maybe we should revived the (typewrite-made) magazine Hack-Tic?
  • Maybe you would like to organise the next Limesco Academy in your home town, half a year from now?

Where is it?

We are graceously welcome at Tkkrlab in Enschede. They are situated in the former Polaroid film development laboratory, a large industrial space with lots of spaces which seem to be capable of storing an awful lot of soldering stations.

The location is at strolling distance from railway station Enschede, and supermarkets are nearby. There are no plans to support catering, other than drinks, so please take your own sandwiches or run out of the premises for some.